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  • How Lawyers Can Think About Investing While in Debt

    How Lawyers Can Think About Investing While in Debt

    The Wall Street Journal recently wrote about the complicated financial lives of dentists. Reading the article, it was hard not to see the similarities in the financial challenges that we face as lawyers.

    Among America’s swelling ranks of moderate millionaires, few have more complex personal balance sheets than dentists.

    They earn high incomes, have built valuable businesses and have benefitted from the rising stock market of the past decade and a half. But they often graduate with significant student loan debt and spend years tying up money in building their practices.

    High incomes?

    Years of effort building our careers?

    Significant student loan debt?

    This article could just as easily been written about lawyers.

    The article continues:

    Entering their professional ives in a financial hole often leaves an indelible mark on the way dentists invest. Some take on risky self-directed investments, while others are forced to minimize their retirement savings until they pay off other obligations.

    This article serves as a reality check for anyone thinking that they’ll never have to worry about money if they simply obtain an advanced degree. To the contrary, choosing to take on student loans is a major decision that will impact your personal finances for years.

    The article also illustrates one of the most difficult money decisions that lawyers have to make: should we invest while in debt?

    Today, we’ll explore why I think it’s a good idea to start investing even if you’re paying off debt.

    It’s good to pay off debt and it’s good to invest.

    Same as the dentists featured in the WSJ article, It’s not uncommon for lawyers to have hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

    I regularly get questions about investing while in debt from law students who take my personal finance class. By the way, it’s not just lawyers with student loan debt who face this question. Maybe you have mortgage debt, medical debt, or consumer debt. Perhaps you’ve used a HELOC to buy investment property like I have.

    Regardless of the type of debt, I understand the urge to eliminate that debt as quickly as possible. Still, is it the best idea to avoid investing for the future until that debt is gone?

    I don’t think so.

    Obviously, we know two things to be true at once:

    Debt can be bad. 

    Investing can be good. 

    So, should we focus on eliminating the bad thing or doing more of the good thing?

    It’s not easy to serve two masters at once. How do we plan for the future while worrying about past debts?

    The way I see it? 

    You don’t have to choose only one door to walk through. 

    You can invest while in debt. But, striking the right balance can be tricky.

    The choice to pay down debt or invest for the future is tricky.

    Whatever the case may be, the choice to pay down debt faster or invest for the future is tricky. 

    For people feeling the heavy burden of debt, the idea of investing for some future goal can seem a little bit comical. I completely understand. 

    If you’re facing monthly debt payments for the next 10 years, you may not be ready to think about retirement 50 years from now.

    Trust me, I get it. 

    I know firsthand how heavy debt can feel. 

    In my 20s, I had both student loan debt and credit card debt. It was not fun to carry that debt burden. I’ll never forget the incredible feeling of accomplishment when I paid off those debts. I felt so much lighter. 

    I now have HELOC debt that I’m focused on paying off. That HELOC debt stems from buying five properties in seven years. My real estate portfolio is now exactly where I want it to be, so I’ve shifted from acquisition mode to debt-reduction mode.

    Just about every day, I think about how good it’s going to feel to have that HELOC debt paid off.

    The point is: you don’t have to convince me why you may want to focus on paying off debt. I understand completely.

    However, I think it’s worth considering the advantages of investing at the same time you’re paying off debt. You don’t have to go all-in on paying off debt or all-in on investing. You can strike a balance.

    Four main reasons to invest while in debt.

    There are four main reasons to consider when thinking about whether you should invest even though you’re in debt.

    If you’re not investing at all because you’re focused on debt, these four reasons should give you something to think about.

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    1. Invest while in debt because of the psychological side of money decisions. 

    It feels good to see your investment accounts grow. This is especially true when you are accustomed to looking at huge debt balances on your laptop or phone screen. 

    Yes, it feels good to see those debt balances shrink. It also feels really good to see your investment accounts grow.

    As a lawyer, you work hard for your money. You spend a lot of hours away from home so you can work and make a living. You deserve to experience the fruits of your labor. 

    When your career is stressing you out, it can be very uplifting to observe a growing investment account balance month-to-month.

    2. Invest while in debt to develop the habit.

    It’s important to get in the habit of investing as early as possible in your careers. Once you start investing, even if it’s only $25 per month, you are creating a habit. This is the type of habit that will pay off immensely in the long run.

    Humans have a tendency to resist change. That’s why it’s difficult to break bad habits. This tendency also works in our favor when we have established good habits, like investing. We tend to just keep doing what we’ve always done.

    When you’ve established the good habit of investing, it’s easy to increase your contributions as you earn more money. The same is true when you’ve eliminated all your debt. You can easily use the money you had been putting towards debt for your already-established investments. 

    That’s because your accounts will already be set up. All you need to do is increase your monthly investment contributions.

    This makes it easier to solidify and benefit from the good habit you’ve cultivated.

    3. Invest while in debt because of compound interest.

    Compound interest is the most powerful force in all of personal finance. The earlier you start investing, the more benefit you’ll get from compound interest.

    You can check out more about the power of compound interest in my post on investing early and often.

    I also encourage you to use the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator to see for yourself how even small, consistent contributions will have a major impact on your finances in the long run.

    4. Invest while in debt because of the math.

    Even though money decisions are closely connected to our emotions, the math of investing can be hard to ignore. If you prefer to make money decisions primarily based on the math, here’s what you can do.

    We’ve talked before about how the S&P 500 has historically earned an average annual return of 10%. Of course, there’s no guarantee that you will earn 10% if you invest. You may earn less or you may earn more. Still, based on the historical data, it’s a reasonable estimate.

    You can then compare that 10% return to the amount you’re paying in debt interest.

    For example, let’s say you created a Budget After Thinking that opened up an extra $200 in your monthly budget to allocate towards either student loan debt or retirement.

    You’ll next want to look up your current student loan interest rates. For illustration purposes, the current interest rate for undergraduate federal loans is 6.39%. The current interest rate for graduate and professional students is 7.94%.

    Then, visit the TATM Resource Library and use a calculator to help make your decision about whether to invest the $200 or put that money to debt. 

    If you put the money to debt, you’ll obviously pay off that debt faster. You can read more about how to easily do these calculations in my post on Debt Snowball vs. Avalanche.

    Likewise, you can use an investment calculator to see how much that $200 will grow in an investment account over the long run. You can see how to do these calculations in my post on risk as the cost to invest.

    Armed with the math, you can then make a decision that makes the most sense to you. 

    You may value getting out of debt faster. Or, you may be motivated by the larger balance in your retirement account. 

    It may come down to how high the interest rate is on your student loans. The higher your interest rate is, the more sense it makes to prioritize paying off that loan.

    The point is that there are mathematical reasons to start investing even while paying off debt.

    One final note about the math: your student loan interest rate is effectively locked in (unless you have a variable rate). On the other hand, your investment return rate is only a projection. That makes a difference. 

    It means that when you are in debt, you are guaranteed to be charged interest every month. In contrast, there are no guarantees you will make money when you invest. As you make your decisions, don’t ignore this key difference.

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    I prefer to allocate 75% to debt and 25% to investments.

    When you consider these four main reasons, you may be convinced that it makes sense to invest even while paying off debt. 

    So, the obvious next question becomes: how much money should you put towards debt and how much should you invest?

    The ratio that works for me is 75% towards debt and 25% towards investment goals. In other words, if I had $1,000 to allocate in my budget for debt and investments, I would use $750 for debt and $250 for investments.

    I used this ratio when I had student loan debt and continue to use it to eliminate my HELOC debt.

    This 75-25 ratio gives me the dual benefit of paying off my debt faster while also seeing my investment accounts grow over time. Once my debts are paid off, I will have already established the good habit of investing. In the meantime, I’m currently benefitting from compound interest and the math of investment returns.

    The reason I lean more towards debt is because I don’t like the feeling of being weighed down by debt. It’s hard to feel completely free when you are carrying the burden of debt. That’s why I am currently prioritizing paying off HELOC debt. 

    That said, I’m not willing to entirely delay investing for the future. The 75-25 ratio is a good balance for me and helps me accomplish multiple goals.

    75-25 has worked well for me. Having reached my 40s, I’m very happy that I did not neglect my investments entirely while dealing with debt.

    Don’t agonize about finding the perfect ratio between debt and investments.

    Whatever balance works for you, keep one important tip in mind:

    Don’t agonize about finding the perfect balance between debt reduction and investing for the future. 

    Take a step back and think about it for a moment:

    Paying off debt is great.

    Investing for the future is also great.

    If you’re doing both of these things in some fashion, you’re already making great money choices!

    If you’re able to pay off debt and invest at the same time, you most likely have already created a successful Budget After Thinking. You have proven that you can stay disciplined enough to allocate funds to your Later Money goals each month. 

    You have already done the hardest part.

    I consider this whole conversation of putting money towards debt or investments a win-win decision. There’s no reason to stress yourself out in search of the perfect balance. You’re already winning.

    Find a balance between debt and investments that works for you and stick to it. You really can’t go wrong. Either way, you are making progress on your money goals.  

    Some day in the future your debt will be paid off. 

    The bottom line is, one way or the other, you are going to pay off your debt. That’s assuming you are a reasonably responsible person on a typical career trajectory. 

    If you have student loans, it might feel like you will never get out of debt. I assure you that you will. 

    To put it in perspective, if you are on a standard repayment plan, you’ll be debt-free in 10 years. For most students, that equates to being debt-free sometime in your 30s.

    My guess is that by the time you retire, you won’t even remember how much debt you had or exactly when you paid it off. The only reason I remember when I paid off my debt is because I’ve been keeping a money journal since 2011.

    On the other hand, towards the end of your career, you will very much be aware of how much money you have saved for retirement. You will be counting on that money to allow you to step away from full-time employment. 

    As hard as it is to do when you’re in debt, try and picture that older version of yourself who is nearing retirement. That older version of yourself will be very grateful that you had the discipline to start investing even while paying off debt.

    That’s why I allocate 75% of my available funds to debt and 25% to investments. When my debt is gone, I’ll put the full 100% to investments.

    So, what do you think?

    Are you currently investing while paying off debt?

    What other factors went into your decision besides the four main reasons discussed above?

    Let us know in the comments below.

  • Don’t Blame Your Income if You Are a Lawyer in Debt

    Don’t Blame Your Income if You Are a Lawyer in Debt

    If you’re a lawyer, you make plenty of money.

    It doesn’t matter if you’re in big law or working in the public sector.

    And, if you’re a lawyer in debt, your income is not the reason why.

    I know lawyers who make a lot of money and are in a lot of debt. I also know lawyers who make modest salaries and have no debt.

    Income is not the problem.

    The problem is what you are doing with that income.

    You may tell yourself that more income would solve all your debt problems, but it won’t.

    Not unless you understand how you got into debt in the first place and are ready to do something about it.

    Today, we’ll look at my three theories why lawyers end up in debt.

    Looking at each of these explanations can help us understand and avoid common pitfalls that lead us into debt.

    Of course, it’s expected that young lawyers will have student loan debt. While student loan debt may be considered good debt, the problem is that it can spiral into other forms of bad debt.

    For example, student loan debt becomes the excuse for why we fall into consumer debt:

    “I have to pay my loans this month, but I also want to eat out with my friends. I’ll just use my credit card.”

    This is exactly what happened to me at the beginning of my career as a lawyer, and what I want to help you avoid.

    If you fall into bad habits early, the problems only magnify when your income rises and your potential to spend rises.

    The key is to eliminate the bad habits before they become bad habits. If it’s too late for that, now is the best time to correct those bad habits before the situation spirals.

    Before we get to my theories why lawyers are in debt, realize that you’re not alone if you are a lawyer in debt.

    Unfortunately, the data shows that debt is all too common in today’s world. Let’s begin with some scary stats about debt.

    Here are some scary stats to help explain why lawyers are in debt.

    According to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, total household debt in the United States grew to $18.04 trillion by the end of 2024.

    That’s such a big number, it’s hard to know what to do with that information.

    Let’s break it down by the type of debt:

    • Credit card balances increased by $45 billion from the previous quarter and reached $1.21 trillion at the end of December 2024.
    • Auto loan balances increased by $11 billion to $1.66 trillion. 
    • Mortgage balances also increased by $11 billion and reached $12.61 trillion. 
    • HELOC balances increased by $9 billion to $396 billion.
    • Other balances, reflecting retail cards and other consumer loans, increased by $8 billion. 
    • Student loan balances increased by $9 billion to reach $1.62 trillion.

    While these numbers are still too big to comprehend, one powerful conclusion is hard to miss:

    In every category, the amount of debt increased from the previous quarter.

    This pattern of increasing consumer debt has been consistent for some time now.

    HELOC balances have increased for eleven consecutive quarters.

    Credit card balances have increased or remained the same for 10 of the last 11 quarters.

    Let’s look closer at credit card debt for a moment. 

    According to a recent survey looking at credit card debt in 2024 by Bankrate.com:

    • 48% of credit card holders carry a debt balance, an increaseof 9% since 2021.
    • 53% of the people have been in credit card debt for more than a year.
    • The main causes of credit card debt are unexpected medical bills (15%), car repairs (9%) and home repairs (7%). 

    According to another Bankrate.com survey, 33% of Americans report they have more credit card debt than emergency savings.

    These last couple stats help us understand why so many people fall into debt in the first place.

    Some of it has to do with the failure to have emergency savings. When we don’t have savings, the first place we turn is to our credit cards.

    Even more has to do with the failure to keep our spending in check, or living below our means.

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    Why is it so hard for lawyers to live below our means?

    “Live below your means.”

    “Money doesn’t grow on trees.”

    “Don’t break the bank.”

    We’ve all heard these common money phrases. If you were to ask someone older than you for one piece of personal finance advice, I’m betting you’ll hear one of these lessons.

    Let me know if I’m right about that in the comments below.

    There’s a reason these phrases are so common. They’re simple and easily reflect some of our core personal finance principles:

    Most of us understand that it makes sense to spend less money that we earn, right?

    How many of us remember rolling our eyes as kids after our parents wouldn’t buy something we wanted because money doesn’t grow on trees?

    I’ve started using this line with my own kids.

    Does anyone truly disagree with these lessons? If so, I’d be very appreciative to hear your perspective in the comments below.

    Why is it that we can all agree with these core personal finance lessons and at the same time choose to ignore them?

    For example, we intuitively know that we should live below our means, but nearly half of us carry a credit card balance.

    On top of that, hardly any of us are completely satisfied with our savings.

    It’s not that we want to have high debt and low savings.

    So why is this the reality for so many of us?

    Here are my three leading theories.

    1. We fall into debt because we are simply careless.

    When I struggled with debt at the beginning of my career, it was basic carelessness.

    I didn’t have any idea how to budget or make intentional choices with my money. I had never thought about why or how to be good with money.

    Like many people, I failed to create a budget and assumed that my W-2 income was plenty. I ignored emergency savings and never even thought about creating Parachute Money

    The saddest part is that I didn’t even realize that I was slipping backwards. I had no idea because I didn’t track my net worth or saving rate. I worked hard all year long and just hoped things would work out.

    By the way, if this sounds familiar, you should know by now I’m not judging anyone. I’ve been very open about my money mistakes.

    We all deserve a chance to learn about and talk about strong personal finance habits. That’s why I’m on a mission to flip the script: talking money is not taboo.

    2. We don’t plan ahead for emergencies.

    So, being careless with money is one common reason lawyers fall into debt. Another common reason is that bad things happen in life.

    This might include medical emergencies, home repairs or car troubles. It’s not our fault that these things happen. But, it is our fault if we’re not prepared in advance. 

    While these events are unfortunate, and maybe even tragic, they are not unexpected. We all need to expect that bad things will happen. 

    Preparing for the unexpected is part of every solid organization’s planning.

    In government, planning ahead means having a “rainy day fund.” 

    When managing properties, planning ahead for big repairs means having a “Capital Expenditures” or “Cap Ex” fund.

    For our personal finances, planning ahead means having an emergency fund. 

    Whether it’s government, business, or personal finance, the goal is to have options other than taking on debt to get through challenging circumstances.

    3. Blame the Kardashians.

    Besides carelessness and emergencies, there’s another powerful force that contributes to rising debt levels across the world.

    This force is nearly impossible to ignore. It’s become a part of our daily lives, whether we want to admit it or not. 

    What is this powerful force that contributes to our rising debt levels?

    The Kardashians.

    OK, not just the Kardashians, but they’re kind of the mascots.

    The era of social media and on-demand entertainment has made it harder than ever to avoid temptation. It’s everywhere we look.

    Blaming the Kardashians realtes to another timeless, common money phrase: “Keeping up with the Joneses.”

    The Kardashians are the modern day Joneses.

    Once upon a time, “the Joneses” represented your neighbors, people you could observe from a distance on a regular basis.

    The idea behind the phrase is that you can see what your neighbors are spending money on and are either consciously or subconsciously tempted to do the same.

    If your neighbors buy a new car, you buy a new car to keep pace.

    If your neighbors vacation in Australia, you research diving tours at The Great Barrier Reef.

    When you notice your neighbors hosting a backyard BBQ party with lots of happy looking people, you decide to host a party the next weekend.

    As humans, it can be difficult to ignore the temptation to keep up with our neighbors.

    Whether we like it or not, we are concerned with our social status. Part of our self-worth gets tied to comparing ourselves to others. 

    Who better to measure up against than the people in our neighborhood who we probably have a lot in common with?

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    Keeping up with the Joneses is compounded in the professional setting.

    This same idea is oftentimes compounded in the professional setting, like at law firms. It is not uncommon to compare ourselves in the same way to our colleagues at the office. 

    This is especially difficult for lawyers. Fair or not, society generally expects lawyers to make a lot of money and have nice things.

    If a partner at your firm joins a country club, wears fancy clothes, or sends her kids to private school, you may feel pressured to do the same.

    It’s easy to get caught up in expensive tastes when you’re expected to fit in, even if you don’t have the money to spare.

    One of my favorite personal finance books, The Millionaire Next Door, discusses this concept in detail.

    I highly recommend you read this book if you are struggling with comparing yourself to others.

    So, what’s the solution for lawyers in debt? 

    Deactivate social media? Cancel the internet?

    Nah. If you did that, you’d miss out on epic Instagram reels like this one where I share my top five favorite personal finance books.

    Instead, the first part of the solution is to recognize when you’re making careless money decisions based on what you think other people are doing. 

    Making money decisions based off of your neighbors, let alone the Kardashians, is the fast road to debt.

    You have no idea why or how another person is spending money. For all you know, it’s all for show and that person is barely getting by. 

    Do you really want to blindly follow this person’s choices? Wouldn’t it be better to confer with people you trust to help you think through money decisions? 

    The second part of the solution is to recognize that everywhere you look, companies are clamoring for your dollars. 

    Not an exaggeration: nearly $2 Trillion (with a ‘T’) of marketing dollars are spent worldwide each year with one goal in mind: to separate you from your money.

    If you let that reality sink in, you’ll hopefully pause the next time you’re about to spend money on something you don’t actually care about.

    You make plenty of money as a lawyer. Your income is not the reason you’re in debt.

    As a lawyer, your income is not the reason you’re in debt.

    You make plenty of money. The issue is what you do with that money.

    This is where we circle back to money mindset.

    You need to have a competing force in your life that’s strong enough to overcome all the noise. 

    I’m referring to your ultimate goals in life. I mean the reasons you wake up every morning to get to the firm or stay up late to finish a brief. 

    Why are you working so hard? 

    When you can answer that question, you’ll know what your ultimate goals are in life.

    With those goals in the forefront of your mind, it’s much easier to make consistent, intentional money decisions. 

    Most importantly, you’ll stay on budget and avoid sinking into debt. 

    You’ll also be much happier when you stop worrying about what random strangers are spending money on.

    If you’re a lawyer in debt, are there other explanations for how you got there?

    Let us know in the comments below.