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  • Get Comfortable Embracing Reasonable Investment Risk

    Get Comfortable Embracing Reasonable Investment Risk

    Two young coworkers, Mike and Elissa, start the same job at the same time making the same amount of money.

    While still many years away, Mike and Elissa both know that they should invest early and often for retirement.

    They each decide to fund a retirement account with an initial contribution of $2,500. They are also dedicated to making contributions of $250 every month until they retire.

    Both plan to retire in 40 years while they’re in their 60s.

    There’s one major difference between Mike and Elissa. 

    They view risk differently.

    Because they view risk differently, one of them will end up with six times more money in retirement.

    Let’s see how that happens.

    Mike doesn’t like risk.

    Mike doesn’t like risk. He wants to be able to sleep at night knowing that his hard-earned money is safe and sound in the bank. He can’t stand the idea of potentially losing money from one month to the next.

    Even though Mike doesn’t like risk, he knows that saving money is important. In fact, he’s a bit obsessive about tracking his accounts using the TATM Net Worth Tracker™️.

    When Mike wakes up in the morning, he likes to check his bank accounts while he drinks his coffee. He gets a jolt out of opening up his mobile banking app and seeing exactly how much money he has.

    Because Mike doesn’t want to take any chances, he decides to stash all of his retirement savings in a savings account that earns an average annual return of 3%. 

    Mike is lucky because this is a pretty generous return for a savings account based on historical savings account interest rates.

    Elissa is more comfortable with reasonable risk.

    Elissa is more comfortable with reasonable risk. Upon starting her career, Elissa was smart enough to know what she didn’t know about money. Because she had never learned basic personal finance skills, she was determined to put in a little bit of effort early on to set herself up for a prosperous future.

    Elissa was a frequent reader of Think and Talk Money. She listened to financial independence podcasts. Elissa even read JL Collins’ book on investing, The Simple Path to Wealth.

    Through the process of educating herself about personal finance, Elissa started thinking about what she really wanted out of life. Since she was young and had just started her career, it wasn’t easy to come up with a good answer. 

    Still, Elissa knew that whatever she wanted to do in life, investing was an important part of her financial journey. If she wanted to create more time for herself down the road, she would need passive income from investments to sustain her.

    So, after doing her homework, Elissa decided to invest her money in a low cost S&P 500 index fund. 

    While she appreciated that there are no guarantees when it comes to investing, Elissa had learned that the S&P 500 has historically earned an average annual return of 10%.

    Unlike Mike, Elissa only checked her accounts once per month when she updated her TATM Net Worth Tracker™️. Elissa slept fine at night because she knew time was on her side.

    Let’s see how Mike and Elissa turned out 40 years later.

    Using the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator, let’s see how much money Mike and Elissa will have in their retirement accounts after 40 years.

    The way I’ve framed our hypothetical, you can probably guess who ends up with more money. What may surprise you is just how much of a gap there is.

    Remember, both Mike and Elissa started with the same initial contribution of $2,500, made the same $250 monthly contributions, and invested for the same 40 year period.

    The only difference between their two journeys was that Elissa was more comfortable with risk.

    After 40 years, Mike has $234,358.

    Use the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator to motivate you to invest and take on the risk even in uncertain times.

    After 40 years, Mike will have contributed a total of $122,500 to his retirement savings account. 

    At a 3% interest rate, Mike will have $234,358 after 40 years.

    In other words, Mike has just about doubled the value of his total contributions in his account.

    Not bad, Mike.

    Now, let’s check out Elissa’s account.

    After 40 years, Elissa has $1,440,925.

    Use the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator to motivate you to invest and take on the risk even in uncertain times.

    Elissa likewise contributed $122,500. After 40 years, at a 10% interest rate, Elissa’s retirement account will have a total of $1,440,925.

    Wow, Elissa!

    Elissa’s retirement account is worth 10 times more than what she personally contributed. Mike failed to even double his money.

    Recall in this hypothetical, Elissa did the exact same things as Mike, with one key difference. Elissa educated herself in basic personal finance concepts and was more comfortable taking on reasonable risk.

    Because Elissa was comfortable taking on some risk, her retirement savings were worth more than six times as much as Mike’s savings. Put another way, she has more than a million dollars more than what Mike has!

    person jumping from cliff to cliff illustrating the concept of reasonable investment risk for young people as shown by the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator.
    Photo by Micah & Sammie Chaffin on Unsplash

    Look at compound interest in action.

    One last thing: take a look at the pictures of Mike and Elissa’s investments over time. Notice the gaps between each of lines on the graphs. The blue lines represent the total account value, and the dotted lines represent only the contributions.

    While they each benefited from compound interest, Elissa benefited exponentially more. 

    Look at how Mike’s blue line stayed much closer to the dotted line. Because he wasn’t earning as much overall interest, he didn’t have as much money to multiply from compound interest.

    On the other hand, Elissa’s blue line mirrored her dotted line closely for the first 12-15 years. Then, the gap widened before the blue line skyrocketed over the final decade or so. 

    That’s the power of compound interest kicking in.

    So, what can we learn from Mike and Elissa?

    The point of this hypothetical is to reinforce the concept of risk when it comes to investing.

    We’ve all heard the saying, “You don’t get something for nothing.”

    That motto applies to investing as much as anything else. There is always risk involved in investing.

    The question is how do you react to that risk.

    Some people are so fearful of that risk that they don’t invest at all, like our friend, Mike. 

    Other people are so desperate to get rich quickly that they take wild risks.

    The people that tend to reach and sustain financial independence are the ones who educate themselves and become comfortable with taking on reasonable risk. This is what Elissa did.

    Think of risk as the cost to invest.

    If you want to reach true financial independence or any other financial goal, it’s going to cost you something. 

    Think of risk as the cost to invest.

    Sure, there are lawyers out there who may reach financial independence on a massive salary, even with poor financial habits. 

    For the vast majority of us, we’re going to have to get comfortable with investing and taking on reasonable risk.

    If you’re on the fence about taking on reasonable risk, now’s a good time to think about your ultimate life goals. Embrace the reasons for why you’re investing. Think about what would motivate you to open yourself up to reasonable risk. For me, it’s having ultimate optionality in life.

    It never hurts to remind yourself what you are hoping to achieve in the future. When you know what that thing is, it’s much easier to pay the cost of risk.

    When you understand reasonable risk, you know that market fluctuations are a good thing.

    Warren Buffett once said, “Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it.”

    This wisdom is important to remember today as multiple wars are being fought around the world and nobody truly knows where the economy is headed.

    Recently, I’ve talked to people still early in their careers who are selling stocks and moving into “safer” positions, like precious metals and cash. Setting aside whether these asset classes are in fact safer, I think it’s a mistake for young lawyers to get out of the stock market right now when they have decades of investment horizon ahead.

    Right now the market is fluctuating. That is completely normal. As Buffett says, this might be a great time to lean into the stock market. When the market goes down, if you consistently invest in broad-based index funds, you can purchase stocks on sale. That’s what Buffett means by profiting from other people’s folly instead of participating in it.

    This is why it’s important to think of reasonable risk in terms of decades, not weeks or months.

    When you look at Elissa and Mike’s future outlook, who would you rather be? 

    It’s not really a hard question, right?

    It’s not only that Elissa has a bigger bank account. What matters even more is that she has created options for herself. 

    Elissa should be in position to do whatever she wants at that point in her life, within reason.

    Mike won’t be.

    The takeaway is that when you have decades ahead of you, let risk work in your favor. Let other people panic and sell their assets when the market is dropping. Ignore the noise. You can’t time the market. Stay invested for the long-term by embracing the risk.

    Readers: are you naturally more inclined to act like Mike or Elissa when it comes to investing?

    If you’re more like Mike, have you thought about what outcome in life would make it worth taking on some reasonable risk?

    Does it feel more difficult to stay invested when the market is dropping?

    Have you tried flipping the script by telling yourself that stocks are on sale when the market drops?

    Let us know in the comments below.

  • Young Lawyers: What to Do When the Market Slides

    Young Lawyers: What to Do When the Market Slides

    The stock market has been sliding so far in 2026.

    As of this writing, the S&P 500 is down 3.3% in 2026 and the Dow is down 3.8%.

    The market can change suddenly, for better or worse. Nobody knows what’s going to happen. Don’t believe anyone who tells you otherwise.

    During times like this, it’s important for all of us, and especially young lawyers, to remember the fundamentals of investing.

    I was asked recently, “What am I doing with my portfolio while markets are falling in early 2026?”

    Despite how chaotic it may seem in the world today, this is not a difficult question for me to answer. 

    I’m not doing anything.

    I invest in the stock market to help achieve my long-term goals. My two main long-term goals are to save for college and to save for retirement. 

    Each objective is so far away that time is on my side.

    Our oldest child is six-years-old, so I have 12-13 years until she even begins college. Over the past two years, we super-funded a 529 college savings plan for my oldest daughter and my son. We plan to do the same for our baby girl.

    I fully anticipate that the market is going to go up and down over the next two decades while my kids are in school. That’s part of the process.

    As for retirement, I have even more time in front of me. Same as what we just talked about with saving for college, I fully expect the market is going to go up and down many times before I retire.

    Time is on my side. That’s why I’m doing nothing.

    Like you, I don’t enjoy seeing my portfolio drop so suddenly.

    It’s not fun to read the headlines right now. My brain seems to jump to the worst case scenario. Maybe you do the same thing. As lawyers, we’re trained to think of the worst case scenario, right?

    This is one of the reasons why I only look at my portfolio once per month when I track my net worth.

    To remind myself to hold steady during the down times, I think of a study that examined what would happen if an investor missed the 10 best days for the market in each decade since 1930. 

    As summed up by CNBC:

    Looking at data going back to 1930, the firm found that if an investor missed the S&P 500′s 10 best days each decade, the total return would stand at 28%. If, on the other hand, the investor held steady through the ups and downs, the return would have been 17,715%.

    These results illustrate how risky it would be for me to try to time the market. The last thing I want to do is miss the upswing. I have no idea when it’s coming. 

    But, time is on my side. 

    I’m going to be in the market when that upswing eventually comes. It may not be until years from now. That works for me and my investment horizon.

    Think of it this way: the market is on sale right now.

    One other mental hack that’s helping me right now:

    I’m telling myself that the market is on sale. How so? I can buy the exact same stocks today for less money than they would have cost even a few days ago. I do love a good sale.

    In the end, no matter how bad things seem right now, I plan to continue making regular contributions to each of my investment accounts. 

    Since I’m investing for the long run, I’ll let the market do its thing while I’m off doing my own things.

    Disclaimer: Your situation may be different. I am not an investment advisor. Do your homework and make the best decisions for your personal situation.

    What is my personal investing strategy?

    When it comes to investing in the markets, I’m about as boring as can be. 

    My wife and I invest primarily in index funds. We are not active traders. We don’t seek out the newest, hottest stocks.

    All we do is make regular contributions to our various investment accounts and let the markets take care of the rest.

    As an example, for my daughter’s 529 plan, we chose a passive investment option that’s a mix of stock index funds and bond index funds.

    Our portfolio automatically rebalances over time based on my daughter’s projected first year of college. Essentially, the closer we get to her first year in school, the more conservative our portfolio becomes.

    We chose a similar option for our other kids’ 529 plans. It’s boring but it works.

    Why index funds?

    I wrote a post detailing the 7 reasons why I love index funds. Here’s a preview:

    1. Anybody can do it
    2. No wasted mental energy
    3. Low fees
    4. Automatic diversification
    5. The closest thing to predictability
    6. I don’t have stock FOMO
    7. Good enough for Buffett, good enough for me

    Like so many others in the financial independence community, I fell in love with index funds after reading J.L. Collins’ book The Simple Path to Wealth. You can read my full review of The Simple Path to Wealth in my post here.

    Even if you work with a financial advisor, it’s crucial to educate yourself so you can make informed decisions, especially in times of economic uncertainty like we’re in right now. As Collins explains, benign neglect of your finances is never the solution.

    By the way, it’s not just Collins urging us to invest in broad based index funds. So does the single greatest investor of our lifetimes, if not ever: Warren Buffett.

    In 2013, Buffett famously instructed that after he dies, his wife’s cash should be split 10% in short-term government bonds and “90% in a very low-cost S&P 500 index fund.”

    Good enough for Buffett, good enough for me.

    For more on index fund investing, check out our full series on investing.

    man sitting on bench during sunset showing that when markets decline it's important to chill and not make sudden investing mistakes.
    Photo by Free Walking Tour Salzburg on Unsplash

    How much money should you put towards each of your financial goals?

    Between saving for emergenciessaving for college, and saving for retirement, there are a lot of options. In addition, you may have other short term goals, like paying for a wedding or a house. Or, you may want to invest in real estate.

    So, how do you determine how much to allocate to each goal?

    There’s no perfect answer here. 

    The first thing you should do is to spend some quality time formulating your version of Tiara Goals for Financial Freedom.

    Then, let those goals inspire conversations with your people to help you make the best decisions. This is exactly how my wife and I came up with our financial goals for this year.

    It also helps to attach specific targets to your financial goals, like we did when we estimated how much you should be saving to pay for college.

    Once you know what you’re striving for, it’s time to commit to a Budget After Thinking. The primary focus of a Budget After Thinking is to generate fuel for the most important goals in your life.

    Are you saving too much for retirement?

    Spend enough time on the internet, and you’ll get many different answers about how much to save for retirement. There are just too many variables in play to generally answer this question, like what kind of retirement you want and when you want to retire.

    My perspective on retirement savings evolved after reading Die with Zero by Bill Perkins.

    In Die with Zero, Perkins suggests that many of us are saving too much for retirement at the expense of using that money to live our best lives now. 

    Perkins’ book is one of the most compelling personal finance books I’ve read in a long time, and I highly recommend it.

    Perkins is not suggesting that saving for retirement isn’t important. He’s saying that the hard data shows that most of us are over-saving.

    Believe it or not, you may be closer than you think to achieving your retirement goals.

    That’s a very powerful realization.

    Think about the options you can create for yourself if you no longer need to save a hefty chunk of your paycheck for retirement.

    Personally, after reading Die with Zero, I used the Think and Talk Money Coast FIRE calculator to estimate my projected retirement savings. As Perkins would have expected, at our then-savings rate, my wife and I risked over-saving for retirement. In other words, we have reached Coast FIRE.

    With that realization, I made some adjustments and am now targeting my other financial goals at a faster rate. I’m also not skipping out on any experiences that appeal to me because of fears about retirement.

    What is Coast FIRE?

    Coast FIRE relates to Perkins’ thesis that many of us are over-saving for retirement.

    The central idea behind Coast FIRE is to aggressively fund your retirement accounts early in your career so you won’t have to save for retirement as you get older.

    For lawyers more established in their careers, Coast FIRE represents the idea that all those earlier years of saving means you no longer need to worry about retirement. You can sit back and let compound interest do its thing. Your retirement years are covered.

    This is the essence of Coast FIRE: knock out retirement planning early on to create more career and life flexibility later. Coast FIRE does not mean you can stop working altogether. It means that you no longer need to save for retirement.

    Why is achieving Coast FIRE so beneficial?

    Because once you hit your projected magic retirement number, you no longer need to fund your retirement accounts. With retirement covered, you can reallocate those funds to other financial or life goals. That means you have more optionality in life.

    For example, you won’t need to earn as much money if you’re not allocating a big chunk of your income to retirement. That opens up the possibility of switching jobs or working fewer hours. It also means that you can focus more dollars on your present-day self.

    Achieving Coast FIRE also means that you can focus on adding present day liquidity to your portfolio. Liquidity means having cash and investments immediately available in case you need it. Increasing liquidity is an important step for maximizing optionality in your life.

    On top of that, when markets are dropping, knowing that you have cash-on-hand can give you a lot of confidence to ride out the dip.

    How do you figure out if you have achieved Coast FIRE?

    The easiest way to determine if you’ve reached Coast FIRE is to use an online calculator, like the Think and Talk Money Coast FIRE Calculator.

    Here’s an example.

    Let’s say you are 35-years-old and plan to retire at age 65. After 9 years of working at a law firm, you have $400,000 saved up in your various retirement accounts. You also currently contribute $3,000 per month to your retirement accounts.

    Your goal is to have $200,000 annually to spend in retirement.

    We’ll assume an average annual return of 10% (on par with the historical results of the S&P 500). We’ll also factor in a 3% inflation rate (the historical average in the United States). Finally, we’ll assume a safe withdrawal rate of 4.7% in light of the updated “4% Rule.”

    Now, we’ll plug these numbers in the Think and Talk Money Coast FIRE Calculator.

    Based on the above variables, your Coast FIRE number is $559,009. 

    Think and Talk Money Coast FIRE Calculator showing you're closer to retirement than you probably think.

    What does this mean?

    At your current saving rate, you will have $559,009 saved up and will reach Coast FIRE in six years. That means that at the age of 41, you will no longer need to fund your retirement.

    The big win is that the $3,000 you had been saving for retirement can be repurposed for other life goals or experiences.

    Yes, you need to keep earning money to sustain your present lifestyle. However, you have the option to pursue a lower paying, lower stress job because your retirement years are already covered.

    Note: Your FI number (magic retirement number) is significantly higher: $4,255,319. That’s how much money you’ll need saved up by the time you turn 65 in our example to spend $200,000 annually in retirement and not run out of money. Because of compound interest, your balance should grow to that amount without any additional contributions after age 41.

    When markets are falling, stick to investing fundamentals.

    If you are a young lawyer with a long investment horizon, you shouldn’t be concerned when markets are falling like they recently have been.

    Time is on your side. Stick to the fundamentals.

    I prefer to invest in broad based index funds, like Collins and Buffett recommend. Regardless of markets rising or falling, I make regular contributions and let compound interest work its magic.

    Because I have already achieved Coast FIRE, I am now focused on building more liquidity, which translates into more optionality.

    It’s not as much fun to track my net worth these days, but the cyclical nature of the markets is part of the process we need to accept.

    Young lawyers: what do you tell yourself when markets are falling, knowing you have a long horizon?

    Does it help stay the course if you talk to your people?

    Let us know in the comments below.