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  • Get Comfortable Embracing Reasonable Investment Risk

    Get Comfortable Embracing Reasonable Investment Risk

    Two young coworkers, Mike and Elissa, start the same job at the same time making the same amount of money.

    While still many years away, Mike and Elissa both know that they should invest early and often for retirement.

    They each decide to fund a retirement account with an initial contribution of $2,500. They are also dedicated to making contributions of $250 every month until they retire.

    Both plan to retire in 40 years while they’re in their 60s.

    There’s one major difference between Mike and Elissa. 

    They view risk differently.

    Because they view risk differently, one of them will end up with six times more money in retirement.

    Let’s see how that happens.

    Mike doesn’t like risk.

    Mike doesn’t like risk. He wants to be able to sleep at night knowing that his hard-earned money is safe and sound in the bank. He can’t stand the idea of potentially losing money from one month to the next.

    Even though Mike doesn’t like risk, he knows that saving money is important. In fact, he’s a bit obsessive about tracking his accounts using the TATM Net Worth Tracker™️.

    When Mike wakes up in the morning, he likes to check his bank accounts while he drinks his coffee. He gets a jolt out of opening up his mobile banking app and seeing exactly how much money he has.

    Because Mike doesn’t want to take any chances, he decides to stash all of his retirement savings in a savings account that earns an average annual return of 3%. 

    Mike is lucky because this is a pretty generous return for a savings account based on historical savings account interest rates.

    Elissa is more comfortable with reasonable risk.

    Elissa is more comfortable with reasonable risk. Upon starting her career, Elissa was smart enough to know what she didn’t know about money. Because she had never learned basic personal finance skills, she was determined to put in a little bit of effort early on to set herself up for a prosperous future.

    Elissa was a frequent reader of Think and Talk Money. She listened to financial independence podcasts. Elissa even read JL Collins’ book on investing, The Simple Path to Wealth.

    Through the process of educating herself about personal finance, Elissa started thinking about what she really wanted out of life. Since she was young and had just started her career, it wasn’t easy to come up with a good answer. 

    Still, Elissa knew that whatever she wanted to do in life, investing was an important part of her financial journey. If she wanted to create more time for herself down the road, she would need passive income from investments to sustain her.

    So, after doing her homework, Elissa decided to invest her money in a low cost S&P 500 index fund. 

    While she appreciated that there are no guarantees when it comes to investing, Elissa had learned that the S&P 500 has historically earned an average annual return of 10%.

    Unlike Mike, Elissa only checked her accounts once per month when she updated her TATM Net Worth Tracker™️. Elissa slept fine at night because she knew time was on her side.

    Let’s see how Mike and Terry turned out 40 years later.

    Using the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator, let’s see how much money Mike and Elissa will have in their retirement accounts after 40 years.

    The way I’ve framed our hypothetical, you can probably guess who ends up with more money. What may surprise you is just how much of a gap there is.

    Remember, both Mike and Elissa started with the same initial contribution of $2,500, made the same $250 monthly contributions, and invested for the same 40 year period.

    The only difference between their two journeys was that Elissa was more comfortable with risk.

    After 40 years, Mike has $234,358.

    Use the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator to motivate you to invest and take on the risk even in uncertain times.

    After 40 years, Mike will have contributed a total of $122,500 to his retirement savings account. 

    At a 3% interest rate, Mike will have $234,358 after 40 years.

    In other words, Mike has just about doubled the value of his total contributions in his account.

    Not bad, Mike.

    Now, let’s check out Elissa’s account.

    After40 years, Elissa has $1,440,925.

    Use the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator to motivate you to invest and take on the risk even in uncertain times.

    Elissa likewise contributed $122,500. After 40 years, at a 10% interest rate, Elissa’s retirement account will have a total of $1,440,925.

    Wow, Elissa!

    Elissa’s retirement account is worth 10 times more than what she personally contributed. Mike failed to even double his money.

    Recall in this hypothetical, Elissa did the exact same things as Mike, with one key difference. Elissa educated herself in basic personal finance concepts and was more comfortable taking on reasonable risk.

    Because Elissa was comfortable taking on some risk, her retirement savings were worth more than six times as much as Mike’s savings. Put another way, she has more than a million dollars more than what Mike has!

    person jumping from cliff to cliff illustrating the concept of reasonable investment risk for young people as shown by the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator.
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    Look at compound interest in action.

    One last thing: take a look at the pictures of Mike and Elissa’s investments over time. Notice the gaps between each of lines on the graphs. The blue lines represent the total account value, and the dotted lines represent only the contributions.

    While they each benefited from compound interest, Elissa benefited exponentially more. 

    Look at how Mike’s blue line stayed much closer to the dotted line. Because he wasn’t earning as much overall interest, he didn’t have as much money to multiply from compound interest.

    On the other hand, Elissa’s blue line mirrored her dotted line closely for the first 12-15 years. Then, the gap widened before the blue line skyrocketed over the final decade or so. 

    That’s the power of compound interest kicking in.

    So, what can we learn from Mike and Elissa?

    The point of this hypothetical is to reinforce the concept of risk when it comes to investing.

    We’ve all heard the saying, “You don’t get something for nothing.”

    That motto applies to investing as much as anything else. There is always risk involved in investing.

    The question is how do you react to that risk.

    Some people are so fearful of that risk that they don’t invest at all, like our friend, Mike. 

    Other people are so desperate to get rich quickly that they take wild risks.

    The people that tend to reach and sustain financial independence are the ones who educate themselves and become comfortable with taking on reasonable risk. This is what Elissa did.

    Think of risk as the cost to invest.

    If you want to reach true financial independence or any other financial goal, it’s going to cost you something. 

    Think of risk as the cost to invest.

    Sure, there are lawyers out there who may reach financial independence on a massive salary, even with poor financial habits. 

    For the vast majority of us, we’re going to have to get comfortable with investing and taking on reasonable risk.

    If you’re on the fence about taking on reasonable risk, now’s a good time to think about your ultimate life goals. Embrace the reasons for why you’re investing. Think about what would motivate you to open yourself up to reasonable risk. For me, it’s having ultimate optionality in life.

    It never hurts to remind yourself what you are hoping to achieve in the future. When you know what that thing is, it’s much easier to pay the cost of risk.

    When you understand reasonable risk, you know that market fluctuations are a good thing.

    Warren Buffett once said, “Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it.”

    This wisdom is important to remember today as multiple wars are being fought around the world and nobody truly knows where the economy is headed.

    Recently, I’ve talked to people still early in their careers who are selling stocks and moving into “safer” positions, like precious metals and cash. Setting aside whether these asset classes are in fact safer, I think it’s a mistake for young lawyers to get out of the stock market right now when they have decades of investment horizon ahead.

    Right now the market is fluctuating. That is completely normal. As Buffett says, this might be a great time to lean into the stock market. When the market goes down, if you consistently invest in broad-based index funds, you can purchase stocks on sale. That’s what Buffett means by profiting from other people’s folly instead of participating in it.

    This is why it’s important to think of reasonable risk in terms of decades, not weeks or months.

    When you look at Elissa and Mike’s future outlook, who would you rather be? 

    It’s not really a hard question, right?

    It’s not only that Elissa has a bigger bank account. What matters even more is that she has created options for herself. 

    Elissa should be in position to do whatever she wants at that point in her life, within reason.

    Mike won’t be.

    The takeaway is that when you have decades ahead of you, let risk work in your favor. Let other people panic and sell their assets when the market is dropping. Ignore the noise. You can’t time the market. Stay invested for the long-term by embracing the risk.

    Readers: are you naturally more inclined to act like Mike or Elissa when it comes to investing?

    If you’re more like Mike, have you thought about what outcome in life would make it worth taking on some reasonable risk?

    Does it feel more difficult to stay invested when the market is dropping?

    Have you tried flipping the script by telling yourself that stocks are on sale when the market drops?

    Let us know in the comments below.

  • Better to Buy 10 Businesses or Stick with Compound Interest?

    Better to Buy 10 Businesses or Stick with Compound Interest?

    I read an article the other day where the author says he’s not going to save another dime for retirement. He reasoned that waiting for compound interest to kick in takes way too long.

    He found a better way, he claimed.

    Instead of investing in the markets long term, he’s going to buy small businesses that generate cash flow. He gave an example of buying a website for $10,000 that kicks off $400 per month.

    That’s money in his pocket right now that he can spend in early retirement. He figures that owning ten small business like that is a faster and better path to retirement than traditional investments.

    When you buy businesses, your cash flow increases. When you invest in stocks, only your net worth increases. Since you can’t retire off your net worth, you’re better off owning businesses.

    The author suggested that everyone can do this and should be doing this. In his opinion, investing for cash flow is much more important than investing for long term net worth.

    Do you want to own and manage ten businesses?

    Interesting philosophy. I hope it works for him.

    Personally, I won’t be following his lead.

    For starters, how are you supposed to select, acquire, and operate ten small businesses? Is that even possible? If it is, it sounds like a major headache. As attorneys, we have enough headaches in our day jobs.

    On top of that, I don’t buy his main concept that owning ten businesses will allow you to retire early. To me, owning ten businesses sounds like ten jobs and a lot of work.

    As attorneys, we already have a demanding job and a lot of work. If you don’t want to work as an attorney anymore but want to keep working, maybe this is an idea you want to explore. If you want to retire and not work, this doesn’t sound like the ticket to me.

    Finally, this scheme sounds risky. How many small businesses would I have to buy to land on 10 that actually generate cash flow?

    According to the US Bureau of Labor, 18% of small businesses fail within their first year, 50% fail after five years, and approximately 65% fail by their tenth year. What are the odds that I’m going to own ten successful businesses that stick around long enough to fund my retirement? Way too risky for me.

    In the end, the internet is full of schemes like this one promising a better and faster way to retire. Some of them might even work!

    I’m not interested in going down this path. I’m sticking with the personal finance concepts that have worked for generations.

    For today’s conversation, that means investing early and often to benefit from the magic of compound interest.

    It’s not sexy. It’s not exciting. But, it works.

    Here’s why.

    Business Consulting meeting working and brainstorming new business project finance investment concept which seems like a lot more work than investing and relying on compound interest.
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    Invest early and often to benefit from the magic of compound interest.

    Compound interest is the interest you earn on interest. 

    How’s that for a confusing definition?

    Fortunately, the idea of compound interest makes a lot more sense with a simple example.

    Let’s say you make an initial investment contribution of $1,000. Let’s assume that you earn 10% interest each year on that investment. We will also assume that you re-invest your investment gains. 

    After the first year, your initial contribution of $1,000 earns $100 in interest (10% of $1,000). That means after one year, you have $1,100 in your investment account.

    Because we are re-investing our gains, that means that at the start of year two, you have $1,100 to invest: $1,000 from your initial contribution plus the $100 earned in interest.

    If you earn the same 10% interest on that $1,100 investment, you will have $1,210 at the end of year two. 

    Notice that in year two, you earned $110 in interest, whereas in year one you earned $100 in interest. That’s because in year 2, you earned interest on the interest your previously earned. 

    This is the key point about compound interest: you earned more money in year two, even though the interest rate remained the same and you did not contribute any additional money.

    That’s how compound interest works. Compound interest is earning interest on interest you’ve previously earned.

    Importantly, you don’t have to work harder or make the right decisions like you would if you owned a small business. With compound interest, you make more money as time goes on by doing nothing.

    So, why is compound interest so powerful?

    Earning an additional $10 in interest year two may not seem like a lot. 

    Over the long run, those additional earnings add up.

    Let’s look at an illustration from the Think and Talk Money Compound Interest Calculator of what happens to that initial $1,000 contribution over a 30-year period:

    In 30 years, you will have a total of $17,449.40. That’s a pretty good result from total contributions of only $1,000. 

    However, for this example, that total is not the important part. The important part is to visualize how compound interest worked its magic to get that result.

    Look closely as the two lines on the graph. The dotted line that doesn’t change represents your initial $1,000 contribution.

    The blue line represents the amount of money you have over time.

    Notice how in the first 10 years or so, the dotted line and the blue line mirror each other pretty closely. Around year 12, you start to see some separation between the two lines. 

    While the dotted line stays flat, the blue line begins to arc upwards. That’s because all that interest you earned during the previous decade has been earning interest. Your investment begins to accelerate upwards without any additional contributions from you.

    By the end of year 30, look at how steep the blue line is jetting upwards.

    Like I said, compound interest is not sexy. But given enough time, it works incredibly well.

    Look at the specific amount of money you’d earn each year in this hypothetical.

    When you use the Compound Interest Calculator, you can also see how much more interest you earn each year as time goes on. Just click the button that says “Show/Hide Data Table.”

    As we mentioned earlier, you earned $100 in interest during year 1. Then, you earned $110 in interest during year 2. That’s a good, but modest, increase.

    During year 12, you earned $285.31 in interest. That’s significantly more than you earned in the early years, all without any additional contributions on your part.

    During year 30, you earned $1,586.31 in interest! 

    The more time that you stay invested, the more money you’ll earn as compound interest works its magic.

    That’s the power of compound interest.

    Invest early and often to be a millionaire with very little effort on your part.

    Compound interest is so powerful that it can make you a millionaire with very little effort on your part. All it takes is time and consistency.

    Compared to owning ten small businesses, that sounds much easier.

    Let’s look at another example to see how you can easily become a millionaire if you invest early and often.

    Let’s say you begin your career after going to law school or grad school at age 25. During your first year working, you saved up $3,000 and decided to invest in a low cost index fund.

    You also make a plan to contribute an additional $300 per month to your investment account for the next 40 years, setting yourself up to retire at age 65.

    We’ll also assume you earn the same 10% interest from our prior example, and you don’t make any withdrawals from your account.

    To provide a fuller picture, we’ll also factor in a 2% variance rate, meaning you can see what would happen if you only earned 8% interest and also if you earned 12%.

    Now, let’s see the results.

    By the time you reach retirement age, you’ll have $1,729,110.97 in your retirement account at 10% interest.

    That amount increases to $3,040,682 with 12% returns and drops to $997,777 with 8% returns. 

    That’s after contributing only $3,000 initially and $300 per month after that.

    Put another way, your total contributions of only $147,000 turns into $1,729.110.97 by the end of your career. Even if the market performs below historical averages, you would still have nearly $1 million.

    Take a look at the graph and notice the similarities to our prior example.

    You’ll notice this graph looks almost identical to our prior example, even with the additional contributions that you make over time. 

    You can once again see that the lines mirror each other closely for the first 10-15 years. 

    Then, the dotted line stays relatively flat while the investment lines gradually arc up before skyrocketing towards the end.

    Now, there’s no way to predict exactly when you’ll start to notice the magic of compound interest. There are too many variables at play.

    The point is that given enough time, your personal investment trajectory should look similar because of compound interest. 

    You can play with your own numbers in an investment calculator like this one to match your personal situation.

    If you’ve created a Budget After Thinking, you may be able to invest much more than $300 per month.

    No matter what initial contribution you make and what interest rate you assume, you should notice a similar investment picture over the long run.

    When I say investing is the easy part, this is what I mean. 

    I just showed you how an early contribution of $3,000 and regular contributions of $300 can turn into more than $1.7 million.

    You don’t have to understand the math behind compound interest. 

    You just have to trust that it works. 

    Then, invest early and often.

    Given enough time, assuming normal, historical market conditions, your investments will gradually increase before shooting up in the later years.

    Read that sentence again. “Given enough time” is the key phrase. 

    The magic behind compound interest is time. 

    The earlier you can start investing, the better off you will be.

    Since we can’t control investment returns, I prefer to focus on what we can control when it comes to investing. 

    We can control when we start investing and how long we invest for.

    By making regular contributions over a long period of time, compound interest ensures that your wealth will grow.

    Invest early and often.

    People smarter than you and me preach the power of compound interest.

    Warren Buffett, the world’s greatest investor, fully appreciates the power of compound interest. He’s famous for saying that his favorite holding period for an asset is “forever”. 

    Buffet’s not literally saying that there’s never a time or reason to sell an asset, like a a stock. He’s simply making the point that compound interest benefits people who stay invested over the long term.

    If the world’s greatest investor isn’t impressive enough for you, how about the world’s greatest thinker?

    Albert Einstein is often credited with this famous quote about compound interest:

    Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it. He who doesn’t, pays it.

    You don’t have to be as smart as Buffet or Einstein to benefit from compound interest. 

    You just have to invest early and often.

    Lawyers: would you rather manage ten businesses, or let your money quietly grow in the background thanks to compound interest?

    Let us know in the comments below.